“Balls in the Air with Charlie Rymer” Podcast Episode 10: Masters Preview & BONUS Jack Nicklaus Interview
Charlie is on location this week in Augusta, Georgia for the 2021 Masters Tournament. He gives us his thoughts on the tournament, and his picks for the event. After his preview, hear from six-time Masters Champion Jack Nicklaus, who joined Charlie last April to talk about his win at the ’86 Masters!
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Charlie Rymer:
Hi and welcome in to the Charlie Rymer Balls in the Air Podcast, and yes, folks, it is Masters Week. And I’m coming to you on this Masters Tuesday from Augusta, Georgia. Haven’t had a chance to get on the grounds yet. We’ve got some COVID protocols that are in place. And all of us that are working on various broadcasts this week, whether it be TV, radio, or internet have to follow those protocols. So when you get to town, you have to go test and then you have to wait about 24 hours to get those tests in. Once that comes in and you’re negative, then you are cleared to get out on the golf course. I can’t wait to get out there and see what it looks like. I had a chance over the weekend with the Augusta National Women’s Amateur to see that the golf course was in excellent shape, much firmer than when we were here in November. Yeah, that’s right, November, for the last Masters.
What a crazy, crazy time we live in, but the golf course was a little sticky back then. I don’t think that’s the case for this 2021 Masters, at least not early in the week. Unfortunately, the weather forecast is not looking really good. It looks like we’ve got some rain coming this way, Friday or Saturday, or Friday and Saturday. Hopefully that won’t be the case. But when I do get out on the course, that’ll be later on today or early on Wednesday. I hope to hear balls landing on the green with that really loud sort of a thud and see them bouncing up in the air. That’s really what Masters golf is all about. This golf course is at its most challenging and interesting, I think, when it’s firm and fast. With the pandemic going on, a few changes while we are back a little more towards normal, it’s still far yet from a normal world in terms of patrons on the golf course here. This week, the golf course will be running at about 20% capacity.
So if you’re lucky enough to be one of those 20%, I know that you’re going to have a wonderful experience. It almost will feel like you’re out there alone. Wednesday of Masters Week is always traditionally the par three contest. That won’t be taking place this year, but Tuesday is always about the Champions Dinner. It’s actually technically known as the Masters Club Dinner. The Masters Club is, well, that’s a club I’d love to be a part of. You’d have to be the chairman of Augusta National or a Masters winner to be a member of that club. And not sure with the pandemic how many of our past champions are going to be in this evening? I’m sure Tiger Woods won’t be in and maybe a few others won’t make it, but I’m sure it’ll be lively conversation. The menu, by the way, of course, Dustin Johnson is the reigning Masters champion. He set the menu and a pretty bland (one). With the exception of the appetizer, you get a choice of either pigs in a blanket, that’s right, pigs in a blanket. I’m not even sure what pigs in the blanket is. I hope it’s like little Smokies rolled up in some of that pastry dough. That’d be pretty cool, or a lobster and corn fritters. There’s a salad. You can have the house salad or the Caesar salad. I’m a Caesar salad man, myself. I believe we’ve got some mashed potatoes, spring vegetables, and you have a choice of a filet mignon or a sea bass. And for dessert, either apple or peach cobbler with vanilla ice cream. That sounds like a pretty good dinner to me.
To be honest with you, if I was in that room, I really wouldn’t care what they were serving for dinner. I would just be so thrilled to be in there. What an amazing tradition that they have at the Masters Tuesday night. And I believe it got started, Ben Hogan is the one that came up with the idea, but that would be the Masters Club Dinner served annually Tuesday night.
And that’s one where I think everybody’s going to show up on time for. Let’s have a look at what’s going on early in the week. Who’s a favorite? Who do you like? Who do you not like? That sort of stuff. And just sort of looking from the top down.
A lot of folks have Justin Thomas at number one. Of course, Justin had the issue back in Hawaii that caused him quite a few issues, some missed time, doing a little soul searching, used a homophobic slur on the golf course that was picked up clearly on the microphone, and that’s something that really hurt him, said “That’s not who I am,” and went away a little bit and got his head straightened out. Came back and didn’t immediately start playing great golf, but had a wonderful performance at the PLAYERS. So he comes in as our PLAYERS champion and his Masters, while he hasn’t exactly lit it up, he has improved every year that he’s played in the Masters.
If you look at his finishes, going back to 2016, tied for 39th, tied for 22nd, tied for 17th, tied for 12th, and last year fourth. So a lot of folks have him as a favorite. He’s not my favorite, but I think he will have a chance. I’m going to the reigning Masters champion, Dustin Johnson, coming off that incredible win back in November when he just looked absolutely dominant, just drove the ball so well. Gave himself plenty of opportunities, and really Augusta is about avoiding the big scores and then playing a lot of offense on the par fives. If you can keep from making big numbers on par threes and par fours, hang in there, and then absolutely light up the par fives. That’s really the key to success at Augusta. If you can drive it long and put it in the right side of the fairway.
And again, with a golf course being firm, it’s maybe a little more important to have that proper angle this year than it has been in the last couple of years. But DJ, when he’s on with that driver, is as good as we have in the game. And sure he hasn’t played very well this last month or so. I spent some time with him down in the Myrtle Beach area. He was in for his Dustin Johnson Junior World Golf Championship that he hosts every year and I had a chance, actually, to do a nice hour-long interview with him that you’ll be able to see coming up on April 26 over on CBS Sports Network, on the brand new Charlie Rymer Golf Show, that’s going to be on every eight… I’ll get it right. Bear with me, folks. Every Monday night starting April 19th at 8:00 PM on CBS Sports Network. 8:00 PMs, you know what I meant.
But anyway, that interview will be on the 26th of April. I’m looking forward to having folks see that because he was very relaxed and calm. And right before I interviewed him, he was telling me that his grandfather wasn’t doing very well. And then soon after the interview, his grandfather actually passed away. So I think that’s something that maybe pulled down his play in March. I expect him to be right back on form coming into this week and you go down a little farther on the list. John Rahm, his game is very well suited to Augusta, a tremendous iron player, which is a such a big part of playing well here. You got to put the ball on the greens in the right spot. And as fact, I could take folks who have never played here, put them on every green in regulation with a birdie putt and they wouldn’t break 90. That’s how severe the greens are here.
You got to be underneath these holes or you’re just going to be playing defense the entire time. John, he and his wife just had their first child and I’m expecting that’s a little bit of a distraction. Being a father, myself, that first child, there’s a little bit bigger deal than the rest of them. You know? When you get child two, three, four, five, it ain’t no big deal. But when that first one comes, it’s a little bit unsteady, and if you know what I mean? And then I always go to Bryson DeChambeau who was on the range yesterday, excuse me, tournament practice area, as we refer to this magnificent practice area here to Augusta National. He was supposedly getting ball speeds of 210 miles an hour. And Vijay Singh was sitting right beside him watching every little thing that Bryson was doing.
And I’m going to tell you what, I don’t know how the back takes it, Bryson going at it that hard, but a lot of eyeballs will definitely be on Bryson. And finally rounding out that top five, Jordan Spieth coming in with a win at the Texas Open last week. It had been a four-year dry spell. This is the best golf course for him in the whole world. His short game and putting is phenomenal. He can feel his way around this golf course. He comes in with some confidence. He’s done a lot of work on his golf swing. I think that Jordan will be in the mix as we get late into this golf tournament. Because if you look at what he’s done here these last four or five months, it just isn’t the win. Last week in the Texas Open, he’s been in contention quite frequently.
Get back a little bit farther, a couple of players to look at. Rory McIlroy, I just don’t like the way Rory’s playing, really struggling with his golf swing right now. Most of the time, I’m very bullish on Rory McIlroy here at Augusta. Lee Westwood coming in playing some of the best golf of his career. He has had quite a record at Augusta, even though he hasn’t won. 2010 and 2016 he finished tied for second, both of those years. He never struggles with his ball striking. His putting stroke is as good as I’ve ever seen, and he’s really releasing the putter well. It’s fun to watch him play right now. Patrick Reed, always very dangerous, although he doesn’t come in playing great golf. A Masters champion knows how to get it around this golf course.
Patrick Cantlay? This is a player who is born to win major championships. And I think when his career is over, he’s going to have at least two of them. And I’m going to be surprised if one of them is not here at the Masters. He is a tremendous player. He’s a surly guy. He’s focused. He really doesn’t have any weaknesses in his game, and then you go back a little bit farther. I just like this guy, Abraham Ancer. I haven’t had a chance to meet him or talk to him. He owns his own tequila company. He is a guy that’s just played some wonderful golf over this last year and a half or so, has moved himself firmly up in the top 50 in the world. Last year, he was in the mix late in the golf tournament. He shot 76 on Sunday, but ended up finishing tied for 13th. That’s a long shot to keep your eye on. No doubt about that.
Well, on this Masters Tuesday, what I want to do now is take you back to April of last year, April of 2020 Masters week. I believe it was on Monday. Of course, the Masters got postponed and no one really knew what was going on in the world of golf and the world politics and the world of how things were really crazy, and had a great opportunity to do a Zoom interview with six-time Masters champion Jack Nicklaus. And it was just really so much fun to be able to catch up with him. And the day that he talked about was Masters Sunday 1986. I was 18 years old. I was on the grounds that day. I can tell you on the second nine, every shot he hit, where I was standing for every shot he hit, it was just an amazing day of golf. And Mr. Nicklaus was so gracious in taking us through that entire special day of golf, one of the best, if not the best in the history of the game. So right now let’s go back to 1986, the reflections of Jack Nicklaus.
Charlie Rymer:
Mr. Nicklaus, with the whole country locked down, people hurting, scared. It’s Masters Week, I think it’s really important to hear from our heroes, and the greatest day of golf that I’ve ever witnessed and I think most people agree the greatest day of golf ever was Sunday 1986 Masters, and I was just hoping you would tell us the story of that day.
Jack NIcklaus:
Well, if you’ve got a couple hours, I can do it, Charlie.
Charlie Rymer:
Well, unfortunately, we’ve got a couple of months.
Jack NIcklaus:
Okay. Yeah, I guess that’s right. Started out that morning with Steve calling me, and he was working the tournament in Hattiesburg, and he said, “What do you think, pops?” And I said, “Well, Stever, I think 66’ll tie it, 65, I’ll win.” He said, “Exact number I got in mind. Go shoot it.” So I went out there with that in mind or started to go out there, then I looked in my closet, said, “Well, what am I going to wear today?” And I sort of rummaging through there and I found the yellow shirt, and I looked at Barb and I said, “What do you think?” And she says, “I think Craig would love it.” Craig Smith was the young man that was our minster’s at home’s son who died from Ewing sarcoma, and he died in 1971, but I had a nice relationship with him and we talked a lot, and I called him after one tournament one time and he says, “You know why you won today.” And I says, “No. Why’s that, Craig?” He says, “I wore my lucky yellow shirt.”
Jack NIcklaus:
So from that point on, if I could … I wore a yellow shirt quite often. But I hadn’t worn one for a couple of years and that sort of popped up that morning. So I went out there with Steve’s idea in mind, Jackie on the bag, my mother and my sister hadn’t been to Augustus since the first year I played in 1959. Lot of things were going on.
Charlie Rymer:
Can I ask you real quick about the … What you’re doing right now with Play Yellow and the yellow shirt. We’ve seen Mrs. Nicklaus walk by a couple times in the background and the two of you, in partnership with the PGA of America, PGA TOUR, LPGA, Children’s Miracle Network Hospitals, you’re trying to raise a big chunk of money, I think it’s around $100 million. Would you tell us about that just a little bit?
Jack NIcklaus:
Well, we’ve combined with the PGA TOUR and actually the game of golf to raise $100 million over five years, this is our second year. I think we’re a little over $30 million starting into our second year, for Children’s Miracle Network Hospitals, 170 of them around the country, and a lot of our tournaments are played in Children’s Miracle Network towns. So none of the money ever leaves the town that it’s raised in. It’s raised there for that hospital. But it’s Play Yellow. We have a Play Yellow Day. It was going to be the Sunday of the Memorial Tournament this year. I think we’re … Memorial Tournament’s going to probably get moved back, I would imagine. We don’t know yet, but I would think that’s going to happen.
Jack NIcklaus:
That was the day that, around the country people want to donate money to children, they would do it on that day. And I think it’s a nice thing that’s happening, and I think they’re using the yellow shirt thing as a … sort of a emblem of it, I suppose, or whatever you … a flagship, flag of it. And so, we’re in the process of trying to raise some money, Charlie, and I think we’re doing all right so far, we’re going to raise a lot of money.
Charlie Rymer:
And for our viewers here, they can find out all the information they need at PlayYellow.org. There’s an amazing video of a young man that’s making the same putt that you made on 17 at Augusta on Sunday in 1986, and for our folks who haven’t seen it, they got to see it, it’s a great reenactment. But sorry to interrupt the golf story there, but-
Jack NIcklaus:
No, no, that’s all right. I have not seen that video.
Charlie Rymer:
That was really important to get that in about PlayYellow.org. Okay, so let’s get back to the golf. You were just saying that Steve, maybe the first time he’s ever been right, Steve Nicklaus, your oldest son, maybe the first time he’s ever been right, picked the right number.
Jack NIcklaus:
Anyway, so I went to the golf course and I was pretty charged up. I was four shots back and I only had eight players in front of me and I knew that was not a big number. If I played a good round, I had a good shot at winning. So I got started off and I think I … Let’s see. I don’t know where I birdied. I think I birdied six. And then I carried right around and bogeyed seven, if I recall. And then I got really lucky on number eight. I hit the ball to the right of the bunker at eight and I tried to cut a three wood around the trees and I pushed it. It went right through the trees.
Charlie Rymer:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jack NIcklaus:
If the ball had hit those trees, I’d have still been bouncing around in those trees. Anyway, it got up there around the green, I made par and didn’t do anything. So I wasn’t doing anything, got to the ninth green, I had about a 12 foot putt and just before I hit the putt, there was a big roar that went up at 17. I mean, sorry. Eighth hole. And it was Ballesteros holding a wedge in for an eagle, and he was leading the tournament. And I sort of walked away from my ball and I got back over there and putted again, and all of a sudden, another big roar went up from eight and Tom Kite followed him in with a wedge shot right into the hole for another eagle. Two eagles on one hole. And I’m sitting there, there was a lot of yelling going on, so I turned to the crowd and I said, “Boy, they made a lot of noise out there. Let’s see if we can make a little bit of noise here.”
Jack NIcklaus:
And I holed that putt, the crowd really loved it, and I shot 35, which wasn’t any great shakes, but it was the start of what happened. And then at 10, I had about a 25-footer and hit a driver and a five iron at about 25 feet short and I knocked it in the hole, and that was pretty good, and then I holed about a 30-footer at 11, that was pretty good. Now I went to the 12th tee and, you know, they go wild at 12. You know how they do there, the guests. It’s a pretty special place for a golfer to walk up to. And I played the shot the way I wanted to, I played it over the bunker and it went to the back fringe. I chipped it about five feet, and then they had a ball mark in my way, I hit that ball park and I missed the putt.
Jack NIcklaus:
Now, it turned out it may have been the best thing that ever happened to me because it obviously brought me back down to earth. So I went to 13 and I hit a three wood around the corner, had a little over 200 yards, hit a three iron onto the green about, I don’t know, 30 feet or so, two putted it. And on 14, I hit it onto the back fringe, almost chipped it in. So I’m walking down 15 fairway and I’ve hit a good drive at 15, but I know I’m still quite a few shots behind, and I got over the ball, I had 214 yards, I believe it was, to the hole. And I said to Jackie, I said, “How far do you think a three will go here?” And I says, “I don’t mean club.” And he said, “I think that’ll go pretty far.” So I hit a four iron from there and the four iron was a high, soft shot and it landed about six, eight feet, rolled it to about 12 feet from the hole, and then I made that putt.
Jack NIcklaus:
Now, that was pretty good. But Ballesteros behind me was making birdies and he was still four shots ahead of me, so I wasn’t really all that much in contention at that point. So we went over to 15, it was 175 yards, a little breeze, maybe just a fraction in our face, couldn’t see the bottom of the pin. It was hidden behind the bunker. I hit a five iron. I hit it perfect and Jackie’s saying, “Be good. Be good.” And I just reached out and picked up my tee without even looking, I said, “It is.” I mean, pretty cocky statement to be making at that point in the tournament, but I knew that the shot was a good shot, and it almost went in the hole. So I made two there.
Jack NIcklaus:
I walk over to the 17th tee and then there’s a big sort of groan and cheer at 15. Well, I knew exactly what happened. I mean, Ballesteros was hitting his second shot and he hit in in the water. And at that point, that moved me back into the tournament. And I remember talking to Seve early in the week and I said, “How you doing, Seve?” He said, “Ah,” he said, “I haven’t played a lot this spring. My game hasn’t been very good.” He said, “I don’t know how I’ll hold up under pressure.” And I remembered that, when he said that to me. So he had had, I don’t know, halfway between a four and five iron to the green, and when you haven’t played, you don’t play at the 15 green a soft four iron. And if you remember the swing, he just quit on it horribly and the ball went about halfway across the water. It was a five iron for him and hit it.
Jack NIcklaus:
But anyway, ball went in the water, so now I’m sitting in a pretty good position. And I drove the ball up the left side of the fairway, which, a little further left maybe than I wanted to, but I still was … I wanted it left side, and I had 110 yards. And I said, “Well, I can’t hit a pitching wedge more than 110 yards.” So I hit a good hard pitching wedge and I hit it about 12 feet left of the hole, had a putt that broke a little bit left to right. Yeah, left to right. And then turned back to the left. And Jackie and I are looking at it and I said, “What do you think?” And he says, “Well, it’s got to go right, Dad.” And I said, “Yeah, I know it’s got to go right, but I think it’s going to come back left towards Rae’s Creek.” He says, “You think so?” I says, “I think so.” I said, “I’m pretty sure that it will.”
Jack NIcklaus:
Well anyway, hit the ball, it broke a little bit right then straightened out, turning back towards Rae’s Creek, and it went in the hole. And of course, that’s the first time all week that I led the tournament. Incidentally, Charlie, I’ve hit that putt 100 times since, it’s never broken left again.
Charlie Rymer:
That’s the hardest putt on the planet to read!
Jack NIcklaus:
Oh, it’s a hard putt. Very difficult putt. Plus the fact it’s a lot faster than people think it is.
Charlie Rymer:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jack NIcklaus:
So I got to the 18th tee, I knew that I was in pretty good shape. I didn’t know that I was leading. And I hit a three wood and hit it 175 yards, just short and right of the bunker. And the pin was in the back and I did not want to be long, I don’t like being long on that hole, so I hit a five iron, and as soon as I hit it, a breath of air hit me in the face, and I said, “Well, I know where that is. I know it’s going to be short.” So it hit the bank, came back down the hill, and earlier in the year, that fall, the fall previous, our company had redone the ninth and 18th greens and we changed them from 11% pitch to 8% pitch, keeping the contours the same to try to allow them to hit the speed on the greens that they wanted without having too much pitch.
Jack NIcklaus:
So I practiced that particular putt maybe 15 times, so I had a pretty good idea of what to do. It was about a 35-footer up the hill, broke a little bit left to right, and I hit it and I hit it right dead in the heart of the hole and it stopped about five or six inches short. And that was all right, so I went up and tapped the ball in and shook hands with Sandy and his caddy and saw Jackie, gave Jackie a big hug. And Jackie’s always talked about that being a very, very special moment for him because here I was acknowledging my son and being part of what we were doing and it was very special to me to have Jackie on the bag and be part of what was going on. At that point in time, I had no idea that I was going to win the tournament, but I knew I was in pretty good shape.
Jack NIcklaus:
So right behind us came Tom Kite, and Tom Kite hit a really nice second shot. He hit about 12 feet short and right of the pin, good chance for birdie. He needed birdie to tie. He hit a really nice putt, it just dropped off below the hole. And then, we went over to Bob Jones Cabin, Bobby Jones Cabin, and I sit down on the couch and start watching Norman make birdies. He birdied 13, 14, 15, and I’m saying, “Oh my gosh.” 16. I got up, I said, “I can’t sit here.” I said, “He’s making too many birdies with me sitting on this couch.” Not that I’m superstitious or anything, Charlie. So I got up and walked around behind the couch. Then he made another birdie at 17. I said, “Oh my gosh.”
Jack NIcklaus:
Well anyway, he hit a perfect tee shot at 18, he sit back at 165 yards with a six iron and hit a pitch out. I mean, not a very good golf swing from Greg, and he hit a pretty decent pitch from where he was and he left himself with about 15, 16 foot putt. He missed the putt and of course that sewed up the Masters. It was a special week and coming out of that cabin, going down to Butler Cabin for the interview, I mean, I’ve got [inaudible 00:15:38], people patting me on the back, giving me high fives, what have you. But that was good, I enjoyed that. Every minute of it. That’s pretty much the story.
Jack NIcklaus:
Then of course, after the round, we had dinner at the club with the family and it was a great day.
Charlie Rymer:
Well, I certainly appreciate you sharing the story. I just wanted to ask you, and this is something I’ve never talked to you about, but coming into 1986, you hadn’t played well that year, you hadn’t won a golf tournament in two years and you hadn’t won a major championship in six years, and some of the comments early in the week, I hate to bring it up, but they were calling you, a few folks were, The Olden Bear.
Jack NIcklaus:
The Olden Bear, he’s all done, he’s all washed up. There’s an article by Tom McAllister from Atlanta and John Montgomery, a friend of mine who we were staying with put it on the refrigerator. Of course, I had to look at every time I opened up the refrigerator. Here’s this guy, his clubs are rusty, he’s through, so forth and so on, and that was okay. And I think the article was actually very justified. I was getting old and I was playing not very well. So that’s the way it worked. But I had that big old putter that I had that week, Charlie. I remember Clay Long from company gave it to me beginning of the year and he said, “Jack, we’ve got this new putter. It’s got a high moment of inertia.” Whatever in the world that means. And I said, “That’s nice.” And I said, “I’m interested in something that makes putts, I don’t care too much about inertia.” And he said, “Oh, it’s a good putter. You’ll like it.”
Jack NIcklaus:
So I remember the first time I tried it and played it, Eagle Trace, and the wind was blowing hard, and about the third or fourth hole, I had about a six inch putt and I couldn’t get the putter settled. The wind was blowing the putter around and finally the wind blew the putter into the ball and moved it halfway in the hole, and I said, “Oh my gosh.” So that putter was a little light, so I found another one, put a little bit more weight on it, got it to where it felt better, and then I started putting pretty decent that spring and was putting pretty good coming into the tournament, but I wasn’t hitting the ball that great. So I went to Augusta the week before the tournament, and I wish I always did, I spent about four days practicing and getting my game in shape and I started hitting the ball much better. And we got to the tournament and then I didn’t putt. I shot 74 the first round, putted not very well. Second round, hit the ball okay and putted a little bit better. 69 the third round, then I started making a couple putts, and then of course, I hit the ball well and putted well the last round.
Charlie Rymer:
Well, Mr. Nicklaus, I certainly appreciate your time. People are going to love hearing this story first-hand this week. Thank you so much.
Jack NIcklaus:
Charlie, my pleasure. It’s always been good. I’m looking into this FaceTime here and behind you it looks like you’ve got snow up there. I don’t think you do.
Charlie Rymer:
No.
Jack NIcklaus:
But it looks like through those windows there’s snow out there.
Charlie Rymer:
We got plenty of pollen here. I know you were up here last year. I live on the south side of Myrtle Beach. We’re just maybe six or eight miles north of your course, Pawleys Plantation and you’ve spent some time here.
Jack NIcklaus:
Yeah.
Charlie Rymer:
No snow, but there’s about a quarter inch of pollen out there right now.
Jack NIcklaus:
Oh boy. Well, you and your family stay safe and we wish you well, look forward to seeing you soon.
Charlie Rymer:
Thank you, and please pass my love to Mrs. Nicklaus and your whole family and you all stay tight and safe.
Jack NIcklaus:
Okay, Charlie. Thanks. Take care.
Charlie Rymer:
Thank you very much.
Charlie Rymer:
There you have it, first-hand recollection from the greatest day in the history of golf. So much fun to hear from Mr. Nicklaus. I’ve heard this story quite a few times, as I mentioned, I was there that day and I just can’t get enough of that. In fact, if that doesn’t get you fired up, you need to find a new passion because that’s about as good as we can do in this game. What I didn’t mention in the intro is about five months prior to April 1986, I’d actually got to spend some time with Mr. Nicklaus. We played at Loblolly Pines down near sort of in the Jupiter area. He was very helpful in helping me figure out where I was going to go to school. He’s been a great friend over the years and very gracious with his time.
Charlie Rymer:
I was very grateful for that. That sort of gets us fired up for this 2021 Masters. I hope everyone enjoys the week. I think it’s going to be an exciting week. Hopefully, that rain will hold off. I’m going to be up here all week working for Westwood One. This is my 13th year with a media credential and the past 12 years, I’ve been the lead analyst for Westwood One and that work falls to SiriusXM. Greg Norman will be the lead radio analyst for SiriusXM this week. I’m sure he’s going to do an amazing job and I’ll be doing a wrap show on the Westwood One Radio Network, which is the largest sports network in the world. You can find us all over on AM and FM, and we’ll just sort of be putting a button on a everything at the end of every day. I look forward to doing that for Westwood One.
Appreciate you joining me right here on the Charlie Rymer Balls in the Air Podcast. You can find us wherever you listen to your podcasts and make sure you like us, and can’t wait to have you back here next time!
