“The Charlie Rymer Golf Show” with PGA TOUR Veteran Jay Haas

In this episode, Charlie catches up with nine-time PGA TOUR winner Jay Haas to cover a host of topics, including his approach to the game over the years and the comeback progress of his son, PGA TOUR veteran Bill Haas.

Charlie Rymer:
I’m Charlie Rymer and this is The Charlie Rymer Golf Show, powered by PlayGolfMyrtleBeach.com.

Charlie Rymer:
All right. Welcome once again to The Charlie Rymer Golf Show. Thrilled to be joined by one of the best guys you’ll ever meet and in the game of golf, everyone considers him a pro’s pro. We’ll get into that a little bit later, but we’ve got a nine-time PGA TOUR winner, 18-time winner on PGA Tour Champions. He comes from amazing golf family: Uncle Bob, Masters champion; brother Jerry, PGA TOUR player, longtime coach at Wake Forest; brother-in-law Dillard Pruitt, winner on the PGA TOUR, now a rules official on the PGA TOUR; and of course, his son, Bill Haas, FedEx Cup champion; and son, Jay Jr., really good player in his own right as well.

Mr. Jay Haas. Jay, appreciate you taking some time to be on my show today.

Jay Haas:
Charlie, looking forward to spending some time with you, always good to be with you.

Charlie Rymer:
Well, Jay, you know I’m coming from Myrtle Beach and you very quietly come down to this part of the world and spend some time in Myrtle Beach. You’ve had a place here for a quite a while now, but I get the feeling you don’t come down here to play a lot of golf. You enjoy the other things and get away from golf when you come down here. Is that right?

Jay Haas:
Yeah. I think you’re right, Charlie. I think, you know I’m 66 now, I’ve been playing for 40-plus years. I won’t say I’ve had enough golf, but I do enjoy sitting on the back porch, having a glass of wine and watching the waves. Just got back this morning actually and we had three just pristine days. As you know, it’s just been so nice down there. Getting ready to get a little bit hot, but I’ve played a little golf while I’ve been down there at times. But most of the time, it’s just watching grandkids enjoy themselves and me enjoying Jan and the beach.

Charlie Rymer:
I’m always selling golf in Myrtle Beach, but there are sure a lot of things to do here outside of golf. I live here full-time now, myself, and I really enjoy those, especially the restaurants, they’ve been a little rough on me around here. But, I want to talk a little bit of South Carolina. You were born in St. Louis. You grew up on the Illinois side, I believe not too far outside of St. Louis. Of course, you had a wonderful career at Wake Forest, in fact on that team with Bob Byman and Curtis Strange, a team that was named the best team in the history of college golf. From there, how did you end up in the Greenville, South Carolina area, which has been your home base for all these years?

Jay Haas:
It’s pretty much because of Jan. My wife, Jan, we met at Hilton Head at the golf tournament there, the Heritage in 1977. We were married in ’78. We moved to Charlotte, spent five years there. We had our sons, Jay Jr. and Bill, who were born in Charlotte. And then, both Jan’s parents were ill. Her father had ALS and her mom was struggling with cancer. She wanted to be with them, by them more than she was getting to be living in Charlotte. And so, we looked at a place here and we’ve been in Greenville since 1983. We have loved it. The kids, we had three more daughters and now 10 grandkids. So, we are firmly entrenched here in Greenville and just love it. What a great city it’s been. The state of South Carolina has been wonderful for me. That’s basically it though. But, Jan said when her parents were gone, we could go wherever we wanted to go. But by that time, we were here. Again, I just love it, some great golf in this area, great people as you know, and certainly no regrets at all for being here.

Charlie Rymer:
I grew up in South Carolina, away for a long time, now I’m full-time resident here. I’m thrilled to be here as well. It’s amazing when you look at the state of South Carolina, it’s pretty small in terms of population, but boy, is it big in the world of golf when you look at the events, when you look at the players that have come out of here. The Ryder Cup essentially pivoted here. It was becoming-

Jay Haas:
Right.

Charlie Rymer:
… a Ryder Cup until Kiawah, “War by the Shore,” wasn’t even a big deal. That made everything such a big deal. But just looking at the players that have come out of here, does that surprise you, seeing so many great players come out of this small state?

Jay Haas:
Yes and no. You know golf, resort-wise, it’s certainly a lifeblood of the coast down there and in a lot of places in South Carolina. But, the Heritage has been a big part of my history there, meeting Jan and just have loved playing in that tournament for so long. It can host the best players in the world year after year after year. And so, we have that part of it. But as you mentioned, Kiawah, the Ocean Course, we had not only the Ryder Cup there, but the Senior PGA was a few years ago and looking forward to another PGA Championship there. So, golf-wise, it’s been amazing.

I think the South Carolina Golf Association gets a big pat on the back for nurturing a lot of the young people in this game. I think they’ve done a great job with their junior program to give them great tournaments to play in. Certainly, my boys benefited from that. A lot of guys that have been to University of South Carolina and Clemson, Charleston Southern, College of Charleston, a lot of the local kids have stayed in-state. That just led to the progression of a lot of good players that have joined the PGA TOUR. They’ve given them the opportunity to play. Again, golf being a big part of this state for generations, I think there’s always been a grandfather, grandmother, father, mother to take the kids out, to teach them the ropes and to show them how the game is supposed to be played, the etiquette, things like that, kind of The First Tee before The First Tee was even a thought.

There’s just been so many great people in this state to fuel that, to keep the flames of that desire going for these young people. And so, it’s just that golf’s so universal now. It almost doesn’t matter where you are, where you’re growing up, but South Carolina has it all in that regard. It’s an easy path to follow, I say. If you want to be a good player or just a golfer, it’s an easy path to follow to pick up some clubs and join somebody that knows what they’re doing.

Charlie Rymer:
Yeah, come on down to South Carolina. I’ve talked about this before and I don’t know that there’s any way to officially track it, even though we can follow every shot, every player hits on a PGA TOUR down to the ant seemingly these days. But, do you think that you played more golf than anyone in terms of the number of rounds, number of holes on the PGA TOUR than anyone in history?

Jay Haas:
I think that Mark Brooks passed me late in his PGA TOUR career and then on into his Champions Tour career, playing the most events on the PGA TOUR. He’s played just over 800 events. He played a few PGA Championships, his lifetime exemption in that. I stopped playing pretty much at, say, 50, 51, 52. I didn’t play a whole lot after that. But, I think I’m number six or seven now on all-time number of events combined – PGA TOUR and PGA Tour Champions. I think Miller Barber has played in … a thousand tournament series.

Charlie Rymer:
All right.

Jay Haas:
But, I’ve passed 1,100 now. Actually, Miller, I think, has somewhere in the 1,300s. I don’t think his record will ever be touched. They’re the most events to start it. But, I was blessed with pretty good health, not really any major issues. My desire to play the game really never left me, a couple of times that I was not playing great and frustrated and all that. But generally speaking, I still have that desire, that passion to play. I think that’s why I’m still a still out there trying to do it.

Charlie Rymer:
Well, that period, as you were sneaking up on 50, was a resurgence in your career. In fact, you were in the top 20 in the world after age 50 and that is something that’s been very rare. I came out to play a couple of times on PGA Tour Champions, got my butt handed to me. I got a chance to talk to you a little bit while I was out playing a few events. But, what I found is right when I turned 50, I lost my flexibility. I lost speed and it just started hurting a little bit. And so when I look at you or I look at what Hale Irwin did, or I look at what (Bernhard) Langer has been able to do, I’m like, “How does the body hold up after playing all of that golf, walking all those rounds of golf in this rotational sport?” How have you been able to do it? It just couldn’t be luck.

Jay Haas:
Well, I owe it a lot to luck, I tell you. I’ve never had, what I would call, a violent swing. People say, “Boy, you’ve got such a smooth swing.” I say, “Really? I’m swinging as hard as I can. Why does it look so smooth? I want it to look fast and powerful.” But, I think I just never had that, so my body lasts a little bit. Again, just fortunate good genes, I guess. I had a shoulder issue of aches and pains like everybody else does, but you’re right. I think everybody reaches a certain point and their body just starts to break down a little bit. It takes a little extra effort to stay sharp, to stretch and things like that. I won’t sit here and tell you that I stretch 30 minutes a day, or do this weight or that weight, or anything like that. I’ve just been pretty fortunate that my body has held up. I’ve had some back issues and I get some treatments on that from time to time, but I’m just trying to hang on, maybe another few years.

People ask me, “How much longer are you going to play?” My answer is when I look back after a few events, a month, two months go by and I’m in the last group off a number 10 on Sunday, every single week, I’m going to say, “You know what? I just don’t want to be in that pairing. I don’t want to finish last just to be playing in a tournament.” So, I think I’ll know. I think it’ll hit me like a freight train and I’ll be done. I don’t think I’ll be any kind of retirement tour by any means. I don’t think I’ll tell anybody. I think I just won’t show up.

Charlie Rymer:
I can tell you what that last pairing on Sunday is like off of 10th tee, it’s not that much fun.

Jay Haas:
I’ve been there. I have been there. I tell you, it’s not fun.

Charlie Rymer:
No, it is not fun.

Jay Haas:
Not many spectators checking out my action that day.

Charlie Rymer:
No. Well, I’ve got a theory and I want to see if you agree with this or not. First off, through golf, I noticed a case with your case with me, we’ve been around a lot of folks in the military, a lot of our vets. A lot of times, it’s injured vets and I love what golf does for our injured vets. But, have you developed any or spending time around any Navy SEALs over the years?

Jay Haas:
I have not, but you mentioned being at the beach and we have a home at a place called Prince George. It’s just above DeBordieu Golf Course and just below Pawleys Island. We are two doors down from a guy named Clebe McClary. I don’t know if you know Clebe or not-

Charlie Rymer:
I don’t.

Jay Haas:
… but he is an unbelievable speaker. He lost his left arm, he lost his left eye, most of the use of his right hand in Vietnam. He was a champion football player, baseball player, an athlete, unbelievable specimen. He turned his life from that moment of getting injured, he has given it to the Lord. He’s an amazing speaker now. In fact, we were just at his house last night and talked to him a little bit. But he, I guess, is my closest friend who, I would say, has been in that arena. He’s quite an impressive guy.

He came up here and spoke about four years ago at the Blade Junior tournament that we have at Thornblade here in Greenville. I was a little worried about a guy that’s … He even says, “I’m pretty scary looking.” He got a patch on his eye and his one arm. He had his full-dress outfit on. I’m telling you what, he spoke for about 25 minutes and you could’ve heard a pin drop. These kids all from 12 to 15, 16 years old, not one of them blinked hardly. It was very, very impressive. I didn’t mean to get off on your tangent there-

Charlie Rymer:
No, no, no.

Jay Haas:
… but you mentioned the military. It gives me chills to think about him. We see ads on TV, these ladies and gentlemen who don’t have an arm or whatever, it’s just breaks your heart. But, they are some unbelievable champions in life.

Charlie Rymer:
Well, I’m glad you told a story because … I don’t want to compare, in any way, serving the country to playing golf for a living. But, the fact that we do play golf for a living and we’re able to establish relationships and meet some of those people, you can learn so much from our vets and our folks that serve. That’s why I brought up Navy SEAL. I’ve got a friend of mine who’s a Navy SEAL. He’s retired now in Dallas and I talk to him a lot about being a Navy SEAL. When I look at those special operators, the cream of the crop, these guys, they’re not the biggest guys, are not the fastest guys, are not the strongest guys. They’re smart, but there’s something on the inside that makes them get through that training and something that I don’t think can be taught. It’s just something on the inside.

And so when I look at these guys operating in that environment, how successful they are, what they’re able to do and it’s this strong belief that they have in themselves, they’ve got something that you can’t measure from the outside. When I look at someone who’s had the longevity that you’ve had in a sport that beats you up really bad, you have had to have had, over the years, at times when it wasn’t even logical to have, this strong belief in yourself. And so when we start breaking down golfers and looking at what they do well, I don’t really care that much about looking at the stats that you can measure. I like to learn something from a player like you that has something that you can’t measure. It’s hard. Just all of these years, still playing, still wanting to go out and compete, how have you been able to do that, have this just strong belief in yourself that you can do it and keep doubt at bay?

Jay Haas:
I don’t know, Charlie. I don’t know if there’s any one answer other than what I touched on a little bit before about having the passion to still want to do it. Young people come up to me all the time and say, “What do you do when you’re real nervous?” There’s just no answer to that. It’s just eventually you’ve got to step up and hit a good shot. There’s no secret to it. There’s no formula. You mentioned something inside. What makes Tiger (Woods) so calm in the face of so much pressure? Any champion, what is it that separates that guy from the guy who plays a year or two, and then you never hear from him again? So, I don’t know what the answer is. But in any walk of life, whether it be sports, whether it be business, a doctor, nurse, whatever it is, there’s something inside that separates people and make some the best or one of the best in their field.

I won’t say you either have it or you don’t, but I do think that it’s somewhat innate, I believe. You can look at two people from the same family and they don’t react the same to different circumstances or different pressure situations, or whatever. There’s no right or wrong to it. It’s just a fact. But for me personally, I think I’ve always tried to improve. I think that’s been one of my goals. When I first came on the TOUR, I said, “I want to get better next year. I want to be better when I play in January of next year. I want to have learned something next year.” That came to a halt because physically I wasn’t as good as I had been and all that, but I can still learn something.

And so, I think that’s what I still try to do when I go out. I still want to learn how to hit that flop shot over the bunker. How did that guy do that? What did that buried lie? How did he do that? It maybe didn’t require a great deal of strength or speed or stamina, whatever it is, but I think I could learn to do that. So, I think those are the kinds of things that I’ve tried to do in my career. I’m always observing. I remember one time, the first time maybe I was playing with Jack and I was over a chip shot, I’m thinking, “God, I wonder if he thinks I got the right club here or not.” I’m trying to play this flop shot, maybe I should be running it and everything. I didn’t hit a very good shot. Later on, I realized that he really didn’t give a rip whatever I was doing.

Charlie Rymer:
He didn’t care.

Jay Haas:
He was thinking about the six-footer for eagle that he was getting ready to putt. You just have to play your own game. Again, I only know golf. But, I just think you need to dance with who brung you, all that stuff. There’s no secrets to it. As you know, you’ve just got to hit a good shot. Eventually, you’ve got to step up. There’s no coach. There’s no sports psychologist. There’s nobody that can say how to do this. You just have to do it when the time comes.

Charlie Rymer:
Got to do it. You’ve been doing it for a long, long time very, very well. I normally don’t get into mechanics very much, but one of the things that I do want to ask you about with the mechanics and in particular, in your short game, in an era when all of these teachers, most of them didn’t play the game at the highest level, they are trying to take the hands out of the touch shots, out of the putter, out of the wedges around the green. When I watch you play, I still see some really good hand action. Even in the putting, I see a little bit of a load and release, and I certainly see a lot of hinge there with the wedges around the greens. A lot of people think if you do that, well, you’re going to have the yips. Well, I’m sorry I even brought that word up. But, having the yips is nothing you’ve ever struggled with. What do you think about how you play the game versus maybe how the game is taught to the masses?

Jay Haas:
Well, I do think that I’m a combination perhaps and overlapped a couple of eras, say, in how to … Let’s think about putting. If you look at old videos of the replays of The Masters back in the ’60s, say, almost every player loaded the putter. They hinge the putter because they had to. The greens were slower. It was almost like hitting a chip shot on the fringe now or putting. The greens ran eight maybe, maybe nine or 10 if they were just out-of-control fast. But now, every green is running 12 or 13. And so, the putting became much more mechanical and much more robotic in my eyes. Maybe more efficient because there were less moving parts and things like that, but I think the new type of stroke perhaps take some of the artistry out of it.

I look at a guy who I think was one of the best of all time, obviously he was Ben Crenshaw. He told me one time, he said, “Jay, I figured it out, I think.” I go, “Really?” He goes, “Yeah.” He says, “I just wasn’t getting my legs into it enough.” He’s talking about putting. He said, “I just wasn’t moving my lower body enough. It was too still.” So, that’s the other end of the spectrum of somebody who’s a total artist. And then, you think about Jason Day, has no hinge at all in his putting or even his pitch shots around the green, and is obviously a fabulous chipper and a putter. So, there are different ways to do it. But, I do think the conditions of the greens and the fringes and everything that we play, we don’t have to be maybe as wristy or load the putter and the chip shot as much as we once did.

However, I do think that you just cannot discount that artistry that a golfer should have. It’s not, the game isn’t played in pictures. Every shot is different. People say, “Well, should I always chip with a 7-iron? Should I always use a sand wedge?” No, every shot is different. You need to develop a touch with all the different clubs. A lot of times, I’ll just throw a ball to somebody. I say, “Well, throw this ball back to me.” They throw it, hit me right square every time. I said, “Did you think about that or did you think about where your elbow was, or anything?” No, you just did it. You did it with your eyes. That’s what I tell people a lot of times is putt with your eyes, chip with your eyes, just see this shot, try to imagine the shot.

Invariably, people don’t use their wrist, to me, enough and certainly in chipping. As you see, no backswing. They’re worried about hitting it fat or bladed over the green. But, I do think that you just have to have that hinge. I’m speaking from somebody who does. I learned that way. At times, I look at some of these other guys’ strokes and they’re very rigid. They look foolproof from short distance. But when I try it, I have no touch at all. I have no speed control. Obviously, speed is so much a part of chipping and putting.

Charlie Rymer:
I’m with you. I think you got to use the hands and don’t be afraid.

Jay Haas:
Right.

Charlie Rymer:
Especially amateur golfers out there, they’re not playing on greens that are rolling 12, 13, 14.

Jay Haas:
Exactly.

Charlie Rymer:
You’ve got to have some hands there.

Jay, I want to get the last subject here. I want to talk to you about son, Bill. I know it’s been a real struggle for him since that horrible accident that he was the passenger in. I believe it was a driver that died in the accident, just up the street from Riviera. I know you get out and you work with him some. I know the father and teacher is got to be somewhat of a challenge. First off, how’s he doing? We’re looking at almost three years, I believe, since that accident.

Jay Haas:
Right.

Charlie Rymer:
How’s he doing?

Jay Haas:
He’s doing what seems to be a lot better. I don’t know. He doesn’t dwell on it a lot and talk a lot about it. I don’t bring it up very much, but I think he is doing a little bit better with it. I don’t think anyone knew how he was going to react to that. I don’t think he knew how he was going to react and still probably does. I think it changed his outlook on life a little bit, became much more cautious, maybe played that way on the golf course. I think most of us at a young age think we’re bulletproof and he came very close there to not being with us anymore. I don’t even want to think about that part of it. I feel so badly for his family and it was very, very tragic.

But, I do think that Bill is doing better. In fact, we’re supposed to play in the morning. We’re going to play at Chanticleer in Greenville over here in the morning and he has not played very well for the last couple of years. He’d be the first to tell you, he’s hard on himself. He’s heard me over time say, “Hey, there’s no substitute for playing well, just figure it out, get it done, no excuses.” And so, that’s the way, his attitude that he has.

I do think that the last six weeks or so that we’ve played, everybody’s been off and we’ve played a good bit of golf. He’s been working on a couple things and he looks as good as I’ve seen him in a long time, physically tee-to-green. He started to hit the ball better. He looks a lot more comfortable. To me, the barometer for good scores on the PGA TOUR is putting. If you don’t putt well, as we see it week in and week out, the guy who makes that extra 18-foot, or getting up and down, makes a six-footer on the last hole. You just don’t do that every single week. But when you do, the scores usually show that you’re having a good week on the green. So if he putts well, I think that he’s going to be fine. I think he’s getting a little more confident with his long game.

I think there are players that have a security blanket of hitting the ball in the fairway, on the green. When that doesn’t happen, they kind of not panic, but they’re not like players who maybe spray it off the fairway here and there, get it up and down, make a 20-footer. That’s just the way they play. And so when they’re not hitting it tee-to-green perfectly, there’s no big deal. I’m going to get it done. I think Bill’s in the first category where he was a very good ball striker, knack for hitting it solid, and he was not hitting it as well as he was used to. When his putter was not saving him, he was struggling. And then with the accident, things, you can make excuses, but he does not.

But again, I think he’s going to be back and he’s just 38. I still look at him as a young kid, but I think he’s going to do well. He’s going to play at Colonial. He’s going to play at Hilton Head. He got a spot in the Memorial Tournament. And so, I think right off the bat here, when they start up again, hopefully he’s going to get off to a good start and get his confidence back. As you know, confidence is so important out there.

Charlie Rymer:
Well, please pass my regards to Bill when you guys tee it up tomorrow. Being a father, myself have two boys like you are in. I still think of them as kids but not actually are a lot younger. But in that balance of being a dad, the head of the household, and it’s really tough when you’re really, really good at something that your kids are involved in, you’re their professional hero, too. And then when you try and help them, a lot of people on the outside look in and say, “Oh, well, that’s got to be easy.” But, that whole balance in those things is not as easy as a lot of people think. Right?

Jay Haas:
Yeah, you’re exactly right. I’m wearing a few hats, the dad hat certainly, the fan, sports psychologist, the golf pro, the teacher, and all that, balancing act in a certain way. I laugh because when Jay and Bill were kids, I’d tell them something and they’d hit a good shot, they were almost mad about it. It’s like, “Oh damn, that worked. I didn’t want that to work.”

Charlie Rymer:
He does know what he’s talking about.

Jay Haas:
He does know what he’s talking about, but I’m not going to tell him that. We talk about it, laugh about it today. But, you’re right. Most kids want to do it their own way, so I had to walk a fine line. But I think too, coming from being a professional, knowing how hard this game is, I think I stress that as much as anything that you have to be patient, you have to work at it. Hopefully, I showed a good work ethic in that regard and patience on the golf course.

But at the same time, I’ve mumbled everything under the sun, under my breath on the golf course from time to time. Bill gets a good dose of that from me, I think. But, you’re right. You think it would be easy, but it is a fine line. As you know with your boys, just got to give them the opportunity. Who knows if they’re going to love it or hate it, or somewhere in between? But, it’s been such a great game. It meant so much to me and my family, and met so many great people that I just want everybody to experience that and everybody to enjoy it as much as I have.

Charlie Rymer:
I’ll give you an amen on that. I just got one more question for you. When you go in the locker room, when you go talk to people in the business side of golf, when you go talk to the sponsors side and the name Jay Haas comes up, first thing that comes to everybody’s lips is he’s a pro’s pro. He’s a gentleman. He conducts himself in a way that other professionals aspire to. I just like to ask you, the skills you’ve acquired over the years, you learn from observing people coming along. Who did you learn the most about being a golf professional about, or from? Who did you learn the most from about being a real golf professional?

Jay Haas:
Well, certainly my uncle, Bob Goalby, got me started in the game when I was five or six years old, and was my coach and my mentor and in life sort of. Certainly, my parents kept me going and all that. But, I think having Bob, Bob was a real teacher, an explainer. He’d hit a shot. He’d say, “Well, here’s what I was trying to do there.” And so, I just learned, I didn’t have to ask. He just told me how to play. But then also, he taught me how to rake the bunker and where to stand, and the etiquette of the game, and watch this guy and watch how he plays. He played against the greats of (Billy) Casper and (Arnold) Palmer and (Jack) Nicklaus and (Gary) Player and (Lee) Trevino and Doug Ford, just on and on and on. Guys, Don January, Miller Barber, or Mason Rudolph, these names from the past that, to me, they embody everyone who is good with the game. You think about Tom Watson and Ben Crenshaw, guys from my vintage that are carrying on that legacy of being a good pro to somebody that the younger kids can look up to.

They don’t have to look up to me, but hopefully I’ve set a good example that was set for me prior. I think the group of the young guys now are just out-of-sight great, certainly unbelievable players but really great gentlemen, and hopefully that I’ve had a part of that. But certainly, many, many people have shown the way. You think about Jordan (Spieth) and Rory (McIlroy), just on and on, Rickie (Fowler), all these guys are such great kids, unbelievable players but also great kids, and a great consistency that we’ve got going in the game today. I feel it’s in good hands and will be for the foreseeable future.

Charlie Rymer:
Well, Jay, you’ve played a huge role and paying it forward. Appreciate all you’ve done for the game, appreciate you spending some time with me here today on the show. The only thing I’m going to ask you is next time you head down to Myrtle Beach, give me a call. If you don’t want to get out and play golf, that’s fine. We can go find something good to eat down here.

Jay Haas:
We’ll do both. How about that? We have the house and I would love to. I didn’t realize you were full-time down there. We’re going to be down there all of July. So if you’re around, we’ll definitely give you a call. We’ll go out and play and find some barbecue somewhere.

Charlie Rymer:
Oh, we can find some barbecue. I appreciate it, Jay. Thank you very much.

Jay Haas:
All right, Charlie. See you, bud.

Charlie Rymer:
Thanks for joining us. I’m Charlie Rymer. We’ll see you next time on The Charlie Rymer Golf Show, powered by PlayGolfMyrtleBeach.com.